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The Dork Forest

Dork on Dork Dialog with Jackie Kashian. I am interested in whatever dorky thing you want to talk about. Guests speak to their love of books, TV, Movies, Comic books, websites, food, wrestling, cars, action figures and bees. There is room for all in The Dork Forest. This is a safe space. Credits: Music composed and performed by Mike Ruekberg (Sarah Cohen on intro) Audio fixes by Patrick Brady Website design by Vilmos
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Jan 10, 2011

 

For the first time I think I’m out chatted. Doug Benson owns his dorkdom with a dignity that I truly admire and Eddie Pepitone is a fascinating man in search of his muse. Together their enjoyment of the minutia of life, from twitter to game shows, defines what I really think of when I think of dorkdoms. This episode is cussy – just so you know.

 

Vagaries discussed

The Muppets (new Muppet Movie Eddie is in. And I knew Amy Adams was once I saw her picture).

Veronica Mars (A great TV show that was cancelled)

Nielsen Ratings (I’m sure it’s important-I can’t figure an average. Mostly b/c I can’t care).

Jean Doumanian (SNL and Woody Allen producer)

Pema Chodron (Tibetan Buddhism Teacher)

Money Drop (Kevin Pollack Hosted new game show)

Murray Head - Chess (One Night in Bangkok)

Noises Within (theater in Glendale)

Dick Cavett interviews Janis Joplin (I love what she says after 5:00)

Joan Rivers: A Piece of Work (Netflix Streaming)

Paul Newman – Robert Redford (4th paragraph on this link has the car crushing story)

 

Books recommended

 

Eddie

Death of the Liberal Class – Chris Hedges

Hollywood Writers from 1950-1985 (find Eddie on twitter and ask him which of a million versions of this title)

 

Doug

Zombie Spaceship Wasteland: a Book by Patton Oswalt

Jackie

Talk Show – Dick Cavett

Fool On The Hill – Matt Ruff

 

Credits:
Audio leveling by Patrick Brady!
Music by Mike Ruekberg
 

My Website is www.jackiekashian.com and www.dorkforest.com is an offshoot of it and they both have players and links and show schedules, videos of my stand up and a donation button. Knock yourselves out.

5 Comments
  • six and a half years ago
    Todd Mason
    And, last self-correction, promise...Silverman was on Hartman's last season...but Laura Kightlinger and a host of others were on hand for the weak post-Hartman season (and most of those folks were gone by the end of that season).

    Spambots are pretty sophisticated these days...or perhaps there are spam sweatshops? There's capitalist ingenuity, if so...
  • six and a half years ago
    Todd Mason
    You're quite welcome, and thank you...and I'm glad someone beat me to the first comment! But I should note that the name that was nagging on outside of my memory, along with Shearer, Guest and Short, as the dominant cast members for that last Ebersol season of SNL, was Billy Crystal.
  • six and a half years ago
    Todd Mason
    Whoops...that second "cyberpunk" was meant to be "splatterpunk"...which means slightly different things when applied to the Adolescents' music or to David Schow's fiction. Much as "cowpunk" wasn't quite the same thing with the music of the Blasters and the fiction of Joe Lansdale and Pat LoBrutto's anthology RAZORED SADDLES...though maybe a little closer there.

    As for utter dorking...Murray Head is BUFFY's Anthony Head's brother. Both have done a fair amount of musical theater (hence the latter being one of the most comfortable with the musical episode of BTVS).

    JEOPARDY was a bit tougher Back In The Day...but can be tough now. I liked how everyone (not solely the winner) got to keep the money they earned in the first version...even though the money was much less.

    And, as usual, this is the most relaxed of podcasts I hear...these guys are more wound-up doing their own shows, or when guesting with other (less safe-spacing?) hosts...
  • six and a half years ago
    Todd Mason
    Excellent duo. And you have the kind of clear, yet warm, diction and approach, Jackie, that is utterly useful for voice-over...while Eddie Pepitone's is much more "character"-oriented, for example.

    Doumanian, who had been an associate producer of SNL, stepped up to producer for the 1980-81 season, with the cast that included Gilbert Gottfried and Denny Dillon, among many others who went on to do somewhat better work elsewhere...Doumanian apparently thought that Charles Rocket was the star. After an episode in which Rocket said "fuck" clearly at wrapup, NBC fired JD and her cast, except for Joe Piscopo and the barely-used Eddie Murphy. Dick Ebersol, primarily an NBC sports guy, was brought in as producer, and he ran the series for the next three seasons, the seasons where Murphy and to some extent Piscopo were treated as the stars (while Julia Louis-Dreyfus and others were shunted to the background), and then in Ebersol's last season, Harry Shearer (who had been on the show unhappily in Michaels's last season, to help make up for the loss of Ackroyd and Belushi), Christopher Guest, and Martin Short were essentially dominating the show. Then Michaels returned, with a talented cast who had another unspectacular season...Phil Hartman joined in the second season of the New Michaels regime, and became the anchor of the only other thoroughly good seasons (the season after he left, Michaels had Sarah Silverman, Chris Elliott, Janeane Garofalo and others who should've blown the doors off, and might've if allowed, but no...so much for the magic touch...the show hasn't really done much for me since Hartman left).

    Kathleen Turner apparently has been fighting a genetic disease that led to her packing on considerable weight ten or so years ago, and she's apparently still coping with that as best she can. I missed her one-woman show playing Molly Ivins, which she's perfect for in several ways.

    Steampunk is basically any sort of science-fictional work that retrofits later technology to earlier times...such as THE WILD, WILD WEST's various suggestions of 1880s equivalents of 1960s spy-film gadgetry. For whatever reason, steampunk has caught on with hipsters in a way that (even) cyberpunk, cyberpunk or cowpunk (the western-fiction version) have not. Writers such as Howard Waldrop (recently mocked for one of his 1970s humorous novels...admittedly, the joke in that early case was a bit weak...in a pretty witless segment on LATE NIGHT WITH JIMMY FALLON) have devoted a sizable portion of their careers to steampunk fiction.

    JOAN RIVERS: A PIECE OF WORK is currently running on Showtime, too. And, therefore, on demand on those cable systems and such that do that. I finally saw it last night.

    VERONICA MARS was pretty much the criminous BUFFY ...enough so that Joss Whedon was enamored enough with the show to take a small supporting role in one episode.
  • six and a half years ago
    Nicole
    Ah Jackie, another great show...

    Veronica mars is an awesome show though I've only seen the first season and half of the second season. I keep meaning to buy the third season and finish watching the second but it just hasn't happened yet. Therefore I'm terrified you might give something away whenever you begin to discuss the show on your podcast. Lucky for me you haven't yet. =)

    Money Drop - just saw something on the news the other day about the controversy going on with that show. Here's an article for inquiring minds...

    http://thestir.cafemom.com/entertainment/114217/million_dollar_money_drop_controversy j

    "They have the weirdest safe words" – best comment of the night, day, whatever time it was when you all were talking.

    I'm considering joining Twitter just to read Eddie's posts.

    And yes Doug, us podcast listeners also love to read. So thank you all for the good recommendations.

    P.S. The spam blocker directly beneath this comment box is asking me to type the two words and I'm wondering...is Ridgwa really a word?